spamski

By Joey Polanski

Buddies,

Like many a Blogger blog, The Joey Polanski Show was recently “lockd up” by th BloggerBots on suspision o bein a SPAM BLOGski.  Aftr I publishd my YIV post back on July 14, I dint evn log onta Blogger fer about eight days.  And then, aftr that, I dint log on again until I publishd my Dear Maffia … post on July 30.  Since there hant been a single munt since th inception o th Polanski Show where there aint been at least three posts publishd, I loggd on again late on July 31 to publish anothr post; and it was then that I learnt that I was undr arrest.  Thats hows come July 2008 dint see at least three posts publishd at JPS.  Publickation wunt possible again until July had awready passd inta August.

But evn tho my little stretch in th Blogger Brig had this material effeckt on my blovd JPS, I aint nearly as bent outta shape by it as othrs whov been “bustd” seem to have been.  Fer one thing, I was awready familyer wit th deal: a blog startd a lil while back by th Man Bhind th Curtain was rathr quickly “lockd up” and then rleasd aftr a few days.  To have a three-year-old blog like th JPS treatd similarly was rathr shockin, I guessski; but, HECK, I dont know how a BloggerBot woud hafta go about sniffin out spam blogskis; and, t tell ya da trufe, Im kinda GLAD that Blogger IS tryin to sniff out spam blogskis.

Way I see it, this sorta thing is probly happnin bcause (a) Blogger is probly THE mos popular free bloghost aroun and (b) there probly aint no way to prevent th CREATION o spam blogskis.  That means that th freedom to create spam blogs needs t be “checkd” by some measure that prevents fokes from MAINTAININ em.  A spam-bloggr probly nevr knows his / her spam blogski was lockd until it gets dleted by th BloggerBots; and if a spam-bloggr is swift enough to notice th lock, his / her rquest fer rview & rlease woud likely get him / her exposd as a spam-bloggr and th spam blogski woud probly get dletd anyhowski.  Such a swift bloggr migt jus srrendr th ol spam blogski & try startin a new one — tho that might rquire th hassle o creatin a whole new Google account, and migt eventualy bcome impossible if Google / Blogger keeps lookin out fer such attemps to beat th latest mousetrap by buildin a bettr mouse.  And, trufe be tolt, I think its far more likly that th spam blogski will get dletd bfore th spam-bloggr knows whats happmd.

So I prsonaly applaud Blogger fer sendin out th Bots.  In fackt, you woudnt hear me bitchin if Blogger somhow institutd a periodick full-sweep — once, or evn sevral times pr year.  Nfackt, I probly woudnt bitch a whole heckuva lot if Blogger launchd bots thatd lock up & dlete all em friggin diary blogs & baby-photo blogs out there.  Well … not until somone, like, GUILTd me inta bitchin about it anyhow.

My initial negative reacktion was largely a fit o egotism.  Yknow, like: “How DARE you do this to ME!  Im Charles friggin Fostr KANE!”  But, HECK, it wunt like Blogger was atchualy SUSPECKTIN or ACKUSIN me o bein a spam-bloggr; nfackt, it was esplaind t me, in th lock-out notice, that th Bots is fallible and that mishapsll be cleard up lickety-splitski.  And, as I awready sorta hintd bfore, I sorta gets th feelin that, while Blogger aint gonna admit to it, EVRYONEs gonna get Bottd & lockd.  Yeah, there was a little inconvenience — especialy since it helpd causd that unprecedentd low in Polanski Show histry — but th inconvenience was, like, minor.

One things fer sure: It certainly wunt enough to incline me to leave Blogger fer WordPress.  Its been ovr a year since I startd Joey’s Hole here at WordPress, and durin that time WordPress has improvd drammatickly.  That is, its becomin more and more like Blogger alla timeski.  But its FREE bloghostin still pales in cmparison to Bloggers; and by th time it reachs Bloggers quality itll probly need to launch anti-spam blog-lockin bots thatll have all th WordPressrs lookin to jump to the next haff-assd blog-hostin srvice.  I blieve my WordPress pals who tell me that WordPress is far superior to Blogger when one is runnin a blog on a independent site — and thatll be good t know if & when The Joey Polanski Show goes full-bore www — but till that happms, its exackly th othr way round.  Blogger is WAY bettr, and th JPS is stickin wif it.

6 Responses to “spamski”

  1. mike Says:

    For me it was more than just locking my blog up. It was the way they went about it (shoot first and ask later). I mean if they send out a “bot” to determine what’s spam and what’s not, why not just have the “bot” create a list of suspected spam bots and then have a human-being-type-person go out and verify if the blog is spam. If it is, then lock it up. If not, then move on. But the notion that Goober would just send out a bot, lock up the blogs, and then make users wait until “they” get around to determining if I am spam or not is just a little crappy as far as I am concerned.

    I will admit that for now, I still think Blogger is much better than Word Press, but only because Blogger will let me “tinker.” Other than that, I only see that things are “different” over at Word Press and not insurmountably so.

    It’ll be an adjustment, but I’m going to give it a shot.

  2. Joey Polanski Says:

    Blogger is probly WAY too BIG fer that “havin a human-bein-type-prson check out suspecktd spam sites” thing to be pracktickable. “Shoot first” is probly much more efficient. Aftr all, 95% o th “verifickation” comes in th rquest for rview and rlease.

  3. anaglyph Says:

    If I’d been on Blogger when the Great Bot Debacle happened I might very well have turned psychopath. Honestly Joey, there are much better ways of dealing with these problems than Blogger has implemented. They only do it because it’s easy for them. For a start, the Blogger engine makes it a complete snack to set up spam blogs – why the hell do they do that? These days it’s so damn easy to make sure that only legitimate users have access to your tools – I have dozens of lists and sites that I belong to that prevent bogus sign-ups.

    I believe from my experiences with Blogger that most of their problems happen principally because they (now) set their own agenda before the utility and accessibility of their customers.

    The ‘Shoot First’ scenario is in my view completely unacceptable. Worse, it’s another in a long line of failures and kludges that Blogger has nailed on to its tottering infrastructure.

    I run three other blogs on the Free Version of WordPress, and while it’s not quite as customizable as Blogger, I still prefer it to the constant inconvenience of Blogger. For me, it’s all about the content; I don’t care nearly so much about the ‘look’ as I do about the reliability. And when I do care about the look (as with The Cow) the self-hosted version of WordPress is unmatchable, and completely customizable.

    I know you’ve hear this song from me before, but I swear, ten bucks a year for a domain for JPS, and a $100 hosting plan from Dreamhost or Blue Host or any of a dozen others and you’re away!

  4. Joey Polanski Says:

    I guess I can’t quite see what yer callin “the constant inconvenience of Blogger.” In my experience, there was only one period when Blogger was “buggy” — buggy in a way that made it somwhat hard to maintain the JPS as I woud want it maintained. That was in th period leadin up to the upgrade from Old Blogger to New Blogger. When I startd th Hole here at WordPress, WordPress was WAY more buggy than Blogger evr was. As I said in th post, WordPress has come a LONG way in th meantime; but as o th present, there is nothin so attracktive about WordPress, and nothin so off-puttin about Blogger, as to make me wanna move my main blogski from th lattr to th formr.

    Th move to www is always bein contemplatd; but I dont see no sense in doin that SIMPLY to publish th JPS — when I can awready do that just fine as it is. Such a move might involve th Polanski Show gettin folded inta a largr projeckt, but th time aint yet right fer sompm like that.

  5. anaglyph Says:

    Sure I understand. But I did have a series of major problems with Blogger (as detailed in various places on The Cow) culminating in a major outage and a loss of some posts. The thing that got me most pissed off was that Blogger was entirely unresponsive about the issue – no idea of what the problem was, how long it would last, and worse, if it was likely to happen again (I mean if you don’t know what’s caused it, then you live in constant trepidation that it might happen again). They just went completely dumb. Not even a generic ‘Houston we have a problem’. Nothing. Additionally, there is (or was at that time – I don’t know whether it’s changed) no way of making a backup of you blog. So I went through a period of about 24 hours where I thought I lost The Cow forever.

    Plus I have philosophical problems with them too, such as the insipid and ridiculous Open ID (Gated Community, anyone?), and the fact that people must be a member of Yahoo/Google to comment on Blogger blogs. These things are antithetical to the concept of blogging IMO.

    Well, you’ve heard it all before. All can say is that I don’t know anyone who has ventured into a host supported WordPress blog who’s pining for the Good Ol’ Blogger days…

  6. Atlas Cerise Says:

    So, if ya wanna be on th safe side, make th first o th munt th day that ya look up Joey’s Hole.

    First of the month? Bullshitski.

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